Well this thread has certainly wandered.  How did we get from 

A Real Life Action Man

To a woman possibly looking for some real life action....

Good graphic !  NOSTALGIA !!!

As WW-II 'progressed' more and more USA airmen and soldiers arrived in the UKm preparing for action against the Nazis !

They had chocolate (VERY strictly and 'harshly' rationed !!) - and SILK STOKINGS (No nylon in those far off days) !!!   

The Brits got quite jealous especially those in the armed forces since the Americans had a GREAT advantage  withthe females    

They referred to the Yanks as "Over paid, over sexed, and OVER HERE !!!"

After the war England was still awash with American servicemen who had better uniforms, more money, exotic manners and intriguing accents.  To cut down on the potential for conflict, the US bases would hold their own dances.  Free buses would be laid on to take the girls from the city centre to the base and return them again in time for them to catch the last bus/trains home.  Added to that, there was always free food at the American dances and to a nation of hungry girls still on rations, you can imagine how enticing that would have been.  

My mother says the Americans would give their dates gifts - she was once given an entire box of chewing gum - and always flowers which they expected you to wear on your wrist for the evening.  One thing that amazed the Americans was the English girls didn't shave (arms and legs) but dating an American was injurious to a girl's reputation the inference being that a girl could not possibly do so and still be a virgin.  I guess the American lads did a lot of bragging.  

Personally, regarding advertising, I do not like it in certain forms, but it has to exist somehow.

I mean how on earth would you even find out about things? How would directors, artist, buisness people get buisness without someo form of advertising?

I think it's went too far though, with product placements, signs everywhere and slapped all over the place. IMO advertising is ok when it's begain by the consumer rather then the business.

For example, if you like movies, then you go to sites like IMDB, youtube, etc where you can view upcoming movie trailer and such. Because as a consumer you "want" to be advertised such things.

If you are looking for new resturants in your area and google it, you find them, you read reviews, see what they have to offer, etc.

That kind of advertising makes sense, it's how people find things and it's not intrusive really.

Advertising is as old as business.  In Roman-occupied Britain (as probably elsewhere) the houses where women's sexual favours were available, advertised their wares with a rather graphic picture of the relevant body part, painted in red.  They don't show you these details in the movie do they. 

Silk stockings were of ZERO interest to me at the time (Although they were a VERY great attraction for women  -  as far as I remember ladies didn't [general]y] wear trousers in those days and displaying [shapely] legs was extremely important!!!)
But I was 14 when WW-II broke out and sweets (candies in USA I think ??) meant a lot to me.
IIRC, on presentation of our ration books we received a scant small bar of chocolate probably about a miserable 100 grams, once a week !!! .
This had to get us through the rain of bombs falling on London and later the V1 and  V2 rockets – courtesy of Wernher Von Braun  !!   

Originally Posted By Caroline (24 OCT 2012 9:58pm)

Advertising is as old as business.  In Roman-occupied Britain (as probably elsewhere) the houses where women's sexual favours were available, advertised their wares with a rather graphic picture of the relevant body part, painted in red.  They don't show you these details in the movie do they. 

I toured one of those in Pompeii -think it was called the Lupiere. There, the graphic px on the wall were a tutorial. 

A clear case where a picture is worth a thousand words. 

Originally Posted By SirDave (25 OCT 2012 11:29pm)

Originally Posted By Caroline (24 OCT 2012 9:58pm)

Advertising is as old as business.  In Roman-occupied Britain (as probably elsewhere) the houses where women's sexual favours were available, advertised their wares with a rather graphic picture of the relevant body part, painted in red.  They don't show you these details in the movie do they. 

 

I toured one of those in Pompeii -think it was called the Lupiere. There, the graphic px on the wall were a tutorial. 

I suppose that in the broadeest sense you are right !!
I was not referring to what I assume may be called 'static advertising' which OF COURSE I DO NOT 'CONDEMN'.
In that respect the red and white pole on old-fashioned barbers' shops, the triangular hanging spheres outside pawnbrokers, the red light (plus anything else) adorning brothels, the painted boards outside English pubs illustrating the name of the particular public house e.g. the "Golden Bear" etc., and ALL their modern equivalents such as neon lights naming hotels, factories etc. can ALL be termed as advertising – in a general sort of way !!!

Originally Posted By SirDave (25 OCT 2012 11:29pm)

Originally Posted By Caroline (24 OCT 2012 9:58pm)

Advertising is as old as business.  In Roman-occupied Britain (as probably elsewhere) the houses where women's sexual favours were available, advertised their wares with a rather graphic picture of the relevant body part, painted in red.  They don't show you these details in the movie do they. 

 

I toured one of those in Pompeii -think it was called the Lupiere. There, the graphic px on the wall were a tutorial. 

That's too rich. A tutorial? Really? 

Originally Posted By Len Green (26 OCT 2012 12:18pm)

Originally Posted By SirDave (25 OCT 2012 11:29pm)

Originally Posted By Caroline (24 OCT 2012 9:58pm)

Advertising is as old as business.  In Roman-occupied Britain (as probably elsewhere) the houses where women's sexual favours were available, advertised their wares with a rather graphic picture of the relevant body part, painted in red.  They don't show you these details in the movie do they. 

 

I toured one of those in Pompeii -think it was called the Lupiere. There, the graphic px on the wall were a tutorial. 

I suppose that in the broadeest sense you are right. 

I was not referring to what I suppose may be called 'static advertising'.

In that respect the red and white pole on old-fashioned barbers' shops, the triangular hanging spheres on pawnbrokers, the red light (plus anything else), the painted boards outside English pubs illustrating the name of the particular public house e.g. the Golden Bear etc. and all their modern equivalents such as neon lights naming hotels, factories etc. can all be termed as advertising. 

To go a step further milestones, the American system of showing the name of a town with its population, even the large boards showing distances  kilometrage , branches off etc. can all be classed as "advertising".

 

However this is not what I was referring to.  I meant the incessant arrival of 20 or so totally paper items of daily junk mail in my post box which go directly into my trash can without even a single glance withh, deluge of commercials on my favourite TV documentaries, the intrusion into my private life of phone calls advertising this that or the other, often simply recorded, multitudes of advertisements on the internet and the like was what I meant and what I never pay one iota of attention to.

P.S.

Coincidentally my son and his wife and 4 children and families spent a fortnight's vacation in Amalfi (Italy) returning only 2 days ago,and amongst other things visited Pompeii wonderful photos NOT included here !

 

 

I agree, I think most of the world agress with you on that and it's not just one item of junk at a time anymore either. Some advertisements hold the ability to allow more junk to be spread to you. Even worse there are people who take advantage of this tide of garbage. Some innocent folks will open these items out of curiosity and it is potentially harmful, be it web related, or letter. We've all heard of the diseases through the mail stuff and computer viruses are always a threat. It's sad to see that "Getting the word out" has turned into a hazard...

Len, what are your thoughts on the Palestine / Israeli conflict? Any ideas on how this could best be resolved?

Originally Posted By Pygmy_Marmoset (26 OCT 2012 2:00pm)

Len, what are your thoughts on the Palestine / Israeli conflict? Any ideas on how this could best be resolved?

This is a VERY complex and thorny issue. It is highly volatile and VERY controversial and has been going on for well over a century getting worse all the time !!!
Although other geopolitical troubles can be discussed  dispassionately, anything to do wit Israel becomes deep politics and hence is banned on this Forum although I would LOVE to tell you fully what I personally believe I am not allowed to do so.

I do however think that I can say the following without contravening JA rules – at least I fervently hope so !!!

If the Mods think that this is a forbidden opinion then please just delete this post - it's difficult to decide WHAT EXACTLY constitutes politics !!!

(1) If both sides EQUALLY could look at the dispute purely logically objectively instead of subjectively, and be 'friends', face to face in a civilized fashion and with no preconditions on EITHER side , then I am firmly convinced that a GOOD  COMPROMISE  SOLUTION  COULD  BE  AGREEED  UPON  BY  BOTH  SIDES.

(2) Most unfortunately, I can't see that happening – and even more unfortunately if tenable, not for many years to come.

A very great pity since both sides would enormously benefit from a peaceful closure of the  very unfortunate antagonism – and worse.

(3) So as not to become involved in 'politics' but just generalities, I am NOT going to go into details or blame either side --- although of course I do have my opinions.

Just look at Ireland – a seemingly terrible intractable bloody hostility has been going on there for hundreds of years. 
Burt now it has been resoled – even if there are still small setbacks now & then.

Originally Posted By Len Green (26 OCT 2012 6:01pm)

Originally Posted By Pygmy_Marmoset (26 OCT 2012 2:00pm)

Len, what are your thoughts on the Palestine / Israeli conflict? Any ideas on how this could best be resolved?

This is a VERY complex and thorny issue. It is highly volatile and VERY controversial and has been going on for well over a century getting worse all the time !!!
Although other geopolitical troubles can be discussed  dispassionately, anything to do wit Israel becomes deep politics and hence is banned on this Forum although I would LOVE to tell you fully what I personally believe I am not allowed to do so.

I do however think that I can say the following without contravening JA rules – at least I fervently hope so !!!

If the Mods think that this is a forbidden opinion then please just delete this post - it's difficult to decide WHAT EXACTLY constitutes politics !!!

(1) If both sides EQUALLY could look at the dispute purely logically objectively instead of subjectively, and be 'friends', face to face in a civilized fashion and with no preconditions on EITHER side , then I am firmly convinced that a GOOD  COMPROMISE  SOLUTION  COULD  BE  AGREEED  UPON  BY  BOTH  SIDES.

(2) Most unfortunately, I can't see that happening – and even more unfortunately if tenable, not for many years to come.

A very great pity since both sides would enormously benefit from a peaceful closure of the  very unfortunate antagonism – and worse.

(3) So as not to become involved in 'politics' but just generalities, I am NOT going to go into details or blame either side --- although of course I do have my opinions.

Just look at Ireland – a seemingly terrible intractable bloody hostility has been going on there for hundreds of years. 
Burt now it has been resoled – even if there are still small setbacks now & then.

 

Great reply Len. I have a lot of questions I want to ask you because it is so rare to have an 87 year old in a forum talking to people, and you're here sharing all of your accumlated wisdom with us. Do you mind if I start an "Ask Len" thread where people can ask you all kinds of questions?

Originally Posted By Pygmy_Marmoset (27 OCT 2012 10:15pm)

Originally Posted By Len Green (26 OCT 2012 6:01pm)

Originally Posted By Pygmy_Marmoset (26 OCT 2012 2:00pm)

Len, what are your thoughts on the Palestine / Israeli conflict? Any ideas on how this could best be resolved?

 

Great reply Len. I have a lot of questions I want to ask you because it is so rare to have an 87 year old in a forum talking to people, and you're here sharing all of your accumlated wisdom with us. Do you mind if I start an "Ask Len" thread where people can ask you all kinds of questions?

NO ! I  DON'T MIND  AT  ALL !!

Although I don't know who would be interested in the opinions of an old dinosaur born at the veery beginning of January 1925 and is now nearing 88.

I admit to enjoying DEBATING and reading the opinions of the other all intelligent members on JA whether they agree with my views or strongly oppose them.

So long as they DEBATE & don't sling any mud at anybody (myself included of course) or personally attack or in any way villify  anybody for their views.
:

I suppose I DO have one single asset - long experience of living and having experienced a lot and VERY many different people & types

One thing you learn as you grow older:

When I was young I wanted or maybe expected people to be similar to myself and have the same or similar views,

Now I know and am maybe wiser I know how different people are in EVERY respect and also their different views which I now take for granted.  I repeat however, I STILL can't abide people who disagree with  the subject and reply simply by throwing mud insultingly and personally - that is NOT DEBATING in any logical or civilized fashion - umfortunately much too common and even happens on ocasion here to my regret !

I suppose I temd to be pretty liberal on most questions and have in many respects adapted to th times - not necessarily all !

I suppose I like controversial subjects, not to hear agreement but also to open my eyes at aspects I haven't heard of or considered properly or fully :_

Homosexuality male &/or female: abortion; religious tolerance; class distinction; equality;womens' equality (or in some respects superiority);  death penalty; same sex marriage; contraception; and many other controvesies !

The trouble, even 'danger'is that these controversial free -thinking SOCIOLOGICAL subjects have UNNECESARILY got themselves into politics or religion and both of these are banned on JA

Please do NOT accuse anybody discussing these purely human problems for contravening JA rules !!!

 

 

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The boast of heraldry, the pomp of power,
And all that beauty, all that wealth e'er gave,
Awaits alike th' inevitable hour:-
The paths of glory lead but to the grave.

Originally Posted By Pygmy_Marmoset (27 OCT 2012 10:15pm)
 

Great reply Len. I have a lot of questions I want to ask you because it is so rare to have an 87 year old in a forum talking to people, and you're here sharing all of your accumlated wisdom with us. Do you mind if I start an "Ask Len" thread where people can ask you all kinds of questions?

Pygmy_Marmoset, if you have a lot of questions for Len, why not just PM him and have a nice one-on-one discussion. The above is just a bad idea and I'm surprised that Len didn't abstain.

Thanks Len. Here is the thread I started: http://www.justadventure.com/forums/posts.asp?t=25014

Originally Posted By SirDave (28 OCT 2012 7:30pm)
Pygmy_Marmoset, if you have a lot of questions for Len, why not just PM him and have a nice one-on-one discussion. The above is just a bad idea and I'm surprised that Len didn't abstain.

You'll have to explain to me why this is a bad idea..

We have an 87 year old here on the forums who is still sound of mind. This man is a historical treasure and we ALL, the entire community here at JA, should be able to read about his life and ask him questions before he's gone. 

Thus I have now started the official "Ask Len" thread here in the off-topic section, so that people may seek council from and ask questions to their elder.

Originally Posted By Pygmy_Marmoset (28 OCT 2012 8:25pm)

Thanks Len. Here is the thread I started: http://www.justadventure.com/forums/posts.asp?t=25014

 

Originally Posted By SirDave (28 OCT 2012 7:30pm)
Pygmy_Marmoset, if you have a lot of questions for Len, why not just PM him and have a nice one-on-one discussion. The above is just a bad idea and I'm surprised that Len didn't abstain.

 

You'll have to explain to me why this is a bad idea..

We have an 87 year old here on the forums who is still sound of mind. This man is a historical treasure and we ALL, the entire community here at JA, should be able to read about his life and ask him questions before he's gone. 

Thus I have now started the official "Ask Len" thread here in the off-topic section, so that people may seek council from and ask questions to their elder.

What a truly original idea for a thread.  I can honestly say that none of us would have thought of it. 

Originally Posted By Caroline (28 OCT 2012 9:16pm)

Originally Posted By Pygmy_Marmoset (28 OCT 2012 8:25pm)

Thanks Len. Here is the thread I started: http://www.justadventure.com/forums/posts.asp?t=25014

 

Originally Posted By SirDave (28 OCT 2012 7:30pm)
Pygmy_Marmoset, if you have a lot of questions for Len, why not just PM him and have a nice one-on-one discussion. The above is just a bad idea and I'm surprised that Len didn't abstain.

 

You'll have to explain to me why this is a bad idea..

We have an 87 year old here on the forums who is still sound of mind. This man is a historical treasure and we ALL, the entire community here at JA, should be able to read about his life and ask him questions before he's gone. 

Thus I have now started the official "Ask Len" thread here in the off-topic section, so that people may seek council from and ask questions to their elder.

 

 

What a truly original idea for a thread.  I can honestly say that none of us would have thought of it. 

 

True. Too bad someone didn't take counsel from someone's elder.

Now we know the Nabuhitians have taken over the planet.  There is a new world order for the JA community.

Originally Posted By Len Green (26 OCT 2012 6:01pm)

Originally Posted By Pygmy_Marmoset (26 OCT 2012 2:00pm)

Len, what are your thoughts on the Palestine / Israeli conflict? Any ideas on how this could best be resolved?

This is a VERY complex and thorny issue. It is highly volatile and VERY controversial and has been going on for well over a century getting worse all the time !!!
Although other geopolitical troubles can be discussed  dispassionately, anything to do wit Israel becomes deep politics and hence is banned on this Forum although I would LOVE to tell you fully what I personally believe I am not allowed to do so.

I do however think that I can say the following without contravening JA rules – at least I fervently hope so !!!

If the Mods think that this is a forbidden opinion then please just delete this post - it's difficult to decide WHAT EXACTLY constitutes politics !!!

(1) If both sides EQUALLY could look at the dispute purely logically objectively instead of subjectively, and be 'friends', face to face in a civilized fashion and with no preconditions on EITHER side , then I am firmly convinced that a GOOD  COMPROMISE  SOLUTION  COULD  BE  AGREEED  UPON  BY  BOTH  SIDES.

(2) Most unfortunately, I can't see that happening – and even more unfortunately if tenable, not for many years to come.

A very great pity since both sides would enormously benefit from a peaceful closure of the  very unfortunate antagonism – and worse.

(3) So as not to become involved in 'politics' but just generalities, I am NOT going to go into details or blame either side --- although of course I do have my opinions.

Just look at Ireland – a seemingly terrible intractable bloody hostility has been going on there for hundreds of years. 
Burt now it has been resoled – even if there are still small setbacks now & then.

 

We appreciate that you observe our requests about these sorts of discussions, i did see the new thread open up for "Ask Len" if your issue is more politcal or controversial we ask that you please do not post it on the forums. You may PM one another and that should pose no problem. As for the thread at hand we should probably drop the discussion on issues other than what it states. Many (including myself ) have sort of skewed the original discussion.

Now that the unpleasantries are dealt with... 

Does anyone know if they're planning another stunt like this any time soon?

Please refer to the other thread on this subject where I dealt with the same thing.

It's very VERY late here now - so I'll continue tomorrow !