awww that's cute

the forum does indeed load much faster, and the recent posts section is much more useful.

But the site itself is much slower, loading articles takes almost 10 seconds.

I'm using Chrome as a web browser btw

Originally Posted By Lucien21

 

 

I think you are way over-reacting. Where are you getting the police state vibe from?

 

Nothing I have seen so far has indicated that any of that type is going to happen. The rules seem pretty standard and no different from the previous stuff. Randy banned people, Randy banned the P&R discussions etc This is nothing new.

 

I would imagine that discussions can continue as they did before.

I really hope so Lucien.  I just really got scared by the "posts need to be approved by managment before they will be let through to be viewed by the public"  thing.  Randy never used to do that. He wouldn't - his was not a dictatorial style.  You know, Randy didn't even used to tell people what to write when doing reviews. People could speak their true thoughts.  This site got it's good name BECAUSE it was seen as having an honest and open appraoch.  That means not squishing people's' opinions who disagree with you. 

I need a forum where I can state my honest opinion, I don't want to feel like I have to tiptoe around, which is the case with a few other forums out there.  I've been reprimanded at x place for typing a word in asterisks like this: ***   I got a warning for "self-censoring".  I really and truly don't have time for that level of pettiness in my life.

Since I love the membership here, and it would be nigh impossible to have all of them together like this at any other site (unless I win the lotto jackpot and start my own site 

I can't help feeling the rumblings are ominous, though.  Let's hope those feeling are completely wrong,  that all of what's been said by the new admin is just formality and that they will allow the spirit of Just Adventure to continue.  If this proves to be true, and I'm not banned, reprimanded or silenced for my sacreligious utterances, I'll be the first to apologise . 

Hoever, if I get smacked for saying I need a forum that is fair and unbiased, then so be it, which will just prove my entire point.

Mark won't be happy.  No.  Not at all.  There's no button to preview your post.  Dammit, I'll have to start taking better care of the typos myself from now on.  Then again, maybe not. 

I love the emoticons that turn expressions into animations like 'shit hitting the fan'  and 'beating a dead horse'

Hello people....  well things are differnt..but lets hope not too differnt.

Reading the terms of service, I found this quote link here:  http://www.justadventure.com/termsofuse/

JUSTADVENTURE is a web site covering strategy and wargames and the gaming community for over ten years. Our gaming network that is geared to adults (18-34) and teens (13-17)

And I was like this    - as far as I know this site is a site for adventure games mainly, not strategy and wargames. Or I have I misunderstood something completely. And as far as I can tell we don not have many teens here - most members seem to be adults and many of them (like myself) seem to be well over 40 or even maybe 50.

Under the heading user conduct and submissions I read this:

Although JUSTADVENTURE does not pre-screen user submissions in chat rooms, forums, reviews or otherwise, JUSTADVENTURE and its agents retain the right (but not the obligation) in their sole discretion to refuse or move any Materials, information or other content available on the Site

So, no pre-screening or approving by management of anything we write in forums, as I can see it. I would like a link to the post in which these terms of use are shown then. And when I talk about link I'm talking about this quote from Traveller: 

 I just really got scared by the "posts need to be approved by managment before they will be let through to be viewed by the public"  thing

The other stuff in the term of use section seemsfairly standard to me i.e. no obscene links, no indecent links,  etc. etc. You can find these terms of use at any board these days. The important thing is how they're implemented e.g. how they're interpretered.  For example, at Bethesda and the TES sites they are interpreing the rules rather strictly, I find. On the Bioware board, it is a bit more loosely interpreted. However, bypassing the auto-censor using asterisks (**) is a big no-no.  On RPGwatch.com, they're more relaxed. I think they, on average, ban about 1-2 perons a year. And then we're talking really, really bad behaviour. On the flip side of all this we havew rpgcodex.com on which there very little or no moderation at all. And I do mean at all. People call each other names, insult each other, post false links without the moderators doing something about it. It is, of course, as everything in life - balance. And also it is how you interpret things that matters.

I've always found JA+ to be a very nice and plesasant site  and I'm sure it will stay that way in the future as well

PS: The site loads much much faster for me now - pitty about the lost threads, though.

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changed a smiley

Originally Posted By markornikov
the forum does indeed load much faster,

Originally Posted By Caroline
Mark won't be happy. No. Not at all. There's no button to preview your post. Dammit, I'll have to start taking better care of the typos myself from now on.

Originally Posted By Karsten
Reading the terms of service, I found this quote link here: http://www.justadventure.com/termsofuse/

JUSTADVENTURE is a web site covering strategy and wargames and the gaming community for over ten years.

Originally Posted By markornikov

I love the emoticons that turn expressions into animations like 'shit hitting the fan'

@ Jenny; I don't mind the technical stuff so much; I actually welcome the fact that they're using more modern software, if it means they'll be backing up the forum more often and efficiently.  But the whole atmosphere and focus seems to be different...

@Karsten

I was trying to say, that you have picked up on some of my concerns there, Karsten.  I said more, but I'm not going to retype it all.  ..but I was thinking that perhaps a focus on the Adventure genre is not lucrative enough anymore, which is sad in context of this site's history and the fact that Randy did so much for the adventure genre. 

The link to what you were asking about: is here:         http://www.justadventure.com/forums/posts.asp?t=23418

Furthermore, the other sites you mentioned indeed have a range of styles of moderation, but there is also the factor of like-minded people attract like-minded people; I visit some places that has invisible moderation because none is needed- it's all just a bunch of nice, polite people.  On the other end of the spectrum, the Codex used to be moderated, and the people who voted out moderation stayed and the rest moved out and joined/started other sites, and the birds of the feather who enjoy the codex kind of thing stayed there.  People have reasons why they tend to stick to certain sites, and too strict moderation can also chase people away, just as zero moderation leaves the door open to trolls. 

Still, moderation for swearing and trolling and so on, is not the same as pre-moderating posts before they are even allowed to go o the forum.  Certain blogs, like the Jonathan  Boakes blog has a system like this.  You post something, and maybe the next day your post will appear, if you really praise him a lot in it. 

Oh, and btw the way, words like  erm.. *** hits the fan, used to be very cutely auto-censored by the previous software.  We actually had fun once upon a time seeing how many swear and vulgar words we could think of to include in our posts, since the software would make it come out as completely different words - remember "von Glower"?  ..and "peanuts"  and "don't go there" ?    This software doesn't seem to be censoring ? and since I can't preview my post, I'm not going to type any naughty words to test if it does.    We can use smilies instead... 

I am glad to see the new format being addressed carefully and rationally which is what I would expect from our community here. We are one of the most mature and at the same time most fun loving groups I know in the adventure game world online and I hope we stay that way, I totally understand the need to put a personal imprint on a purchased site, and I will remain hopeful about it all with these few reservations and concerns:

Editing and Cleansing.  - I am all for careful and responsible protection against trolling, spamming and obscenity and vulgarity. I will on that point ask that you REMOVE that smiley of the  something hitting the fan... it is in VERY BAD TASTE and NOT AT ALL FUNNY, it is at a level of about fourth grade humour and has no place on this or any forum.

Staffing - I also understand the need to bring in new people on the owner's new team. but..... i expect and desire and wish to have our current staff preserved and supported as much as they want to stay. We have developed over the years wonderful staff members here, I need mention no names as we all know them very well, and I expect and desire with the strongest feeling to have them kept on and supported in the wonderful work they have done and are doing. There is NO wiggle room on tnis Shane, with respect and I hope you hear this. We can totaly support and understand your needting to set your own course, I would like to have had more personal input from you and a notice from you on your signature of the forum change...but all that can and is forgiven as long as you respect our tradditions and our beloved staff members. thank you and I am wishing this new venture all the best luck.

I agree that the black text does not read on the blue backround - like the topic header. I completely missed it the first time I logged on.

I've found Traveller's statement by following this link:

http://www.justadventure.com/forums/posts.asp?t=23418

Drew (admin) says:

This means that you have submitted a New Post or Topic to a forum that requires the a forum admin or moderator to approve your post before it is displayed to other members or the general public. It could also mean that an Admin or Moderator has hidden your post because it may be against the forum rules and policy so it needs to be corrected. The Post is still available for the member who submitted the Post to edit or delete during this time.

Currently no forums are setup to where all posts have to be approved. I updated the original post to clarify this a little more.

As for why they have chosen to write 'strategy and wargames' in their terms of use, I don't know. I just hope that this site will continue to be one of the main - and one of the best - game sites for adventure (puzzle and riddle) games out there 

PS: There is a preview button, it is between the upload button and the abc spellchecker button and looks like a magnufying glass in front of a piece of white paper. It is true it is not found as a button on the main page itself, but is there - in the message box between the upload file button and the abc spellchecker button, as said.

edit:

If you go the main site (please click on where it says home), you'll see the latest reviews and walkthrouhgs. Also, if look at the bottom of the page, you'll see links to reviews, Walkthroughs and Interviews.

As for why they have chosen to write 'strategy and wargames' in their terms of use, I don't know. I just hope that this site will continue to be one of the main - and one of the best - game sites for adventure (puzzle and riddle) games out there 

Is it possible that the owners of this site also owns at least one other site (which is about strategy & wargames), and they simply copy-pasted the ToS, and changed all refferences to that site, to just adventure, while forgetting to change that  particular bit?

that is possible Fnord so far the new owner of this site and forum has kept a pretty low profile but i would welcome him posting someth8ing about himself and his goals and hopes for the forum and site. We are a kindly crew here and well intentioned and I certianly wish him and this new venture well, in all my own work as an admin, and supervisor of various internet projects and the international group of Game Developers and designers, artists, coders, and staff members from game companies and support entities around the world, I always find that openness and transparency always are best.....  so i remain hopeful the new regieme here will reveal its intentions as things progress and I certainly intend to keep supporting and helping in any way I can if there is reciprocity and respect for our tradditions here that have evolved over many years of support for fine games and Adventure games in general that Randy and our communty have given.

That is one of the longer sentences i have written in a while but i plead mercy for i am on medication for having had a tooth extracted yesterday and I am a bit woozy.

wow, I've been kind of absent lately from the forums so today when I logged in I got to see a whole new look and format of Just Adventure. I think its a welcome change, websites need to get updated from time to time in order to keep being relevant.

I'll make an effort to come visit more often as I did in the past... thinking of which, I won't have much choice but returning seeing in a week i'll be playing Skyrim with some of you!

Nice to see you and your smiling avi Ines...

Your resident spam zapper is still here.  I won't be using the "hide post" function unless we get a spammer or a troll.  Everyone complained on the old board that spambots kept posting in your threads.  It can still happen, but we now have a tool to make them go away quickly.  If you spot one, send me a PM, and I'll get to it as soon as I can.

Regarding the text and backgrounds, here in the forums I see black text on white backgrounds and white text on blue and dark gray backgrounds.  Are you all seeing something different?

If you guys are seeing something that obviously seems messed up please pm me a screen shot (if you can) and what browser you are using (name,version) and Operating system so i can check it out.

Originally Posted By Caroline

Mark won't be happy.  No.  Not at all.  There's no button to preview your post.  Dammit, I'll have to start taking better care of the typos myself from now on.  Then again, maybe not. 

There is.  Second button from the right on the top row. 

JA Staff 3 i see the same thing. and thanks for the info on the zapper etc. sounds good. Sounds like things are getting set up bit by bit. thanks for all the hard work. Much appreciated.

All the hard work is being done by others more skilled than I, CrisGer.  I'm just learning to push a few buttons in the back room. (Oops!)

I see both white, dark grey and dark blue text on the blue and black backrounds: "page" left of the page selection buttons is grey, as is the Topic title header, words to right of the "like" button, and the "all about Adventure Games" line at the top of the page, and copyright info. Terms of Use and privacy Policy are dark blue on blue. Most of the legend text next to the icons on the bottom of the page is grey too.

Nice new look 

Originally Posted By Inesrocks

wow, I've been kind of absent lately from the forums so today when I logged in I got to see a whole new look and format of Just Adventure. I think its a welcome change, websites need to get updated from time to time in order to keep being relevant.

 

I'll make an effort to come visit more often as I did in the past... thinking of which, I won't have much choice but returning seeing in a week i'll be playing Skyrim with some of you!

Yay, Ines, so glad you'll be joining us with Skyrim.   I hope Dona is going to make our party too. It's always nice to have a bit of female backup, you know! 

Originally Posted By tincup2

I see both white, dark grey and dark blue text on the blue and black backrounds: "page" left of the page selection buttons is grey, as is the Topic title header, words to right of the "like" button, and the "all about Adventure Games" line at the top of the page, and copyright info. Terms of Use and privacy Policy are dark blue on blue. Most of the legend text next to the icons on the bottom of the page is grey too.

Hmm,  Wheras the thread heading used to be dark grey on dark blue, I now see white (very clearly) for the thread header on the blue background; so as far as i'm concerned, that seems to be fixed.