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13 FEB 2010 at 11:37pm

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I'm probably going to get into hot water about this with URU Live fans but I have to ask is is URU Live really not all that great?  I ask this cause I've read a few months ago from an article that I posted on another URU Live topic here from Hardcore Gaming 101.  It said that the idea of an MMO Adventure Game probably doesn't work as good as a MMORPG.  Maybe on paper but not in game form.  There were reasons like how players working together to figure out puzzles could easily get the answer by asking someone else for the answer or maybe from an strategy guide.  So finding out the answer might ruin the fun.  And playing thru it again may not be as fun as the last time but I have played through many AG's multiple times before just for the fun of it.  I can never play a MMORPG or any other kind of online game cause:  
1.  I can't afford it.
2.  I tend to perfer playing by myself.
3.  You have to spend some amount of time dedicating to playing it.
With at least ten or so game systems and with a steadily rising collection of video games I can't pay attention to multiplayer games.
I'm not saying that a MMO Adventure Game is terrible.  I just think maybe it not as good as a MMORPG or other online genre game.

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9 MAR 2010 at 10:57pm

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I haven't got the time to dedicate to URU Live myself, but the critisism sounds overly theoretical. There are lots of people who do enjoy URU Live immensely. Obviously a fraction of those addicted to WoW but that says nothing of the quality of URU in particular, and even less on the strenghts online adventure games could have in general.

 


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10 MAR 2010 at 12:39pm

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I can only speak for myself.  Uru Live is giving me a lot of laughs.  I enjoy the chatting and the banter and the discovery.  People are friendly and sometimes it gets a bit multi-lingual too.  Very enjoyable.

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13 MAR 2010 at 4:32pm

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It's free.  Try it, rather than talking about it.  It's not a Wow-type experience, far far from it.

Or, put your post on the official forums http://www.mystonline.com/forums.  Then duck.  




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14 MAR 2010 at 1:55am

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Seriously don't know what your missing.  URU is my favorite game of all time, no other game has had the same effect the first time I stepped outside of Teledahn.  This was when the game first came out, but it was just an amazing sight to see.  I enjoy the games where you need to find out whats going on with little to no clues to start with.

There is a massive community and guilds that have been following the game since 2004.  I'm now going through all the puzzles again and checking out the player made content soon.  If you check out youtube and some of the videos on URU Live (from the beta testing times) look at the comments.  Some people there get so involved into the game that its bringing tears to their eyes just thinking about how much of a good time they had playing it.  No other game has a community like Myst/URU either.  Some sites are so well done, if you didn't know about Myst/URU you would think its for real.

Give it a try, no harm in that, donate please if you do like the game.  Also don't give up if you get stuck, there is always something else you can do and later an idea might popup in your head and you find yourself heading back to try it out.

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16 MAR 2010 at 8:36am

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I haven't played much of it but it's a pleasant enough way to pass the time. If I didn't know people who played it however, I don't think I'd go out of my way to put time into the game. Though I am first and foremost an adventure game fan, and not much of an MMORPG person, when cooperating in multiplayer environments I've found, after playing Uru and a few more 'socially-focused' MMOs, that I very much prefer the intense and immediate team-focused goals provided by MMORPGs - I find exploring and fighting and gaining inventory and leveling up and cooperatively strategizing to be far more compelling than wandering around exploring, solving puzzles and chatting. I can do two of those three in many MMOs and have the bonus content also. Honestly, while playing Uru, all I get is the urge to play Sierra-created MMORPG 'The Realm'.

My ultimate dream MMO would involve puzzle-solving a la Uru Live, minigames for crafting, extremely synchronised team battles and vast worlds full of hidden secrets and lost treasure to explore. Oh and lots and lots of character customisation!  


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16 MAR 2010 at 11:43am

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As far as I know, there is nothing quite like Uru Live, but I have never played any MMORPGs (never had any interest in doing so).
First off I like a solitary gaming experience, and in Uru, you can choose to play that way with the exception of a very few puzzles.
Next, I like to explore mostly on my own,  and there is oodles of places to go. I'll just soak in the environment in Teledahn or Ahnonay, almost like a mini vacation from RL. Part of the experience is NOT having to do anything - no pressures.
Then there is the social aspect - it really is just like communicating on this forum, but you choose the environment to be in and can use talk chat. Mostly I hang out with JAers anyhow, it's just easier to communicate in real time, and occassionally solve puzzles together.
Just for the record, I've never been on a chat room, and did not know what they were. Apparently one of Uru's functions is a chat room. I guess it just means being able to communicate with others over the internet. I didn't know you could go to a fantasy environment/virtual world and meet your friends there.
There is the question of what to do when you've done the formal 'game' part. Again, for me, just watching the scenery/flora/fauna is enough to continue playing. Chatting with JAs in real time is another bonus. Trying out custom marker games is another pastime. There is hope for new content to arrive, and there are ongoing 'lectures' about D'ni and the restoration if you want to learn more background for the game. Add to that the frivolous aspect of going to a 'dance' or taking part in a 'parade' with streamed music, and  it gives me lots of choice.
So, Uru is probably not for everyone, but I'm having a blast with it and I'm hoping that this time it will stay. Though it's free, I've been donating regularly. That's the least I can do for all the fun I've been having.

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19 MAR 2010 at 9:03pm

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I ask this cause I've read a few months ago from an article that I posted on another URU Live topic here from Hardcore Gaming 101.  It said that the idea of an MMO Adventure Game probably doesn't work as good as a MMORPG.  Maybe on paper but not in game form.  There were reasons like how players working together to figure out puzzles could easily get the answer by asking someone else for the answer or maybe from an strategy guide.  


I am not sure if you read a comment by someone on another forum or if you made that comment yourself....but regardless....

MMO Adventure Game probably doesn't work as good as a MMORPG.


there is no distinction between the two i believe first of all...  Massive Multiplayer Online and MMO Role Playing Game...  are the same things. Any online game is role playing, as we are NOT our virtual avatars but we are real people, well most of us i guess  
...so that is all role playing

Secondly, URU was intended to be multiplayer from the very start of its inception, Rand Miller's original dream was to have a huge living world that had changes constnatly and that was shared by many players just like real life is. He worked towards that dream from the start back in 2000, unfortunataly after extensive beta testing URU turned out to not work well enough on the technology of that time, 2002, and any more than 20 players in an area made it totally laggy. It was like swimming through molasses. So Ubi cancelled the Beta, even tho there were 40,000 people ready to join once it went public. URU was released as a single player game at that time.

Now after a change of gane emgine, MOUL can run with up to 200 people in an area or Age, tho at the current state of the newly re reopened Cavern it is set to 50. It is a wonderful group experience and very replayable and you can also play totally alone, for due to the genius of the way Cyan designed it, you get your own "instance" of all the ages and all the public areas, .......  so you can play alone or together.

The story is deep, runs across a entire series of games and books and there is much more of the story to come.....

There was another post on another forum that said something similar and was mistaken in some of the same ways, the poster was criticizing URU and MOUL for some of the same reasons, and really if you look at it carefully, it works so much better as a group experience for so many reasons that it is really hard to see why anyone would think that who has acutally played it ...and spent time with it.

But discussion is always good and i am glad you posted your question.

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20 MAR 2010 at 2:56pm

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I'll add to Cris's post just to emphasize how gorgeous and detailed the online URU world is, even though it is 7 or 8 years old.  

What's missing, after you complete the challenges of solving the various Ages, is an objective.  It is pretty much up to you and others to create your own goals and fun, which, in itself, is fun and social. There are a few tools to do this digitally, like creating your own marker hunt game.

Down the road, there will be new content from users who've been working on new Ages and features for a couple of years now.  

So the game doesn't tell you what to do, it's up to you. This is why some people can't find enjoyment in it.  They expect to walk in, be given a weapon and a team, then go out and kill things until the things get harder to kill, then you kill them too.

If you've ever gathered with your best friends at your home, sat around and said "So, what do you want to do tonight?", and felt excitement about that because they're your best buds and stuff is always fun with them, that's the attitude you need.

Sooner or later someone will suggest something like "Let's climb the invisible wall," or "Let's get lost in Minkata's immense desert storm and try to find each other," and you're off for hours.

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23 MAR 2010 at 10:34am

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Ahhhh..... Minkata.  That place calls to me.  Then it loses me and laughs at me.  Every visit tickles my sense of humour but I'll figure it out one day, mark my words.  




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8 JUN 2010 at 6:07pm

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yep, try it and see :0 that is always the best.

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8 JUN 2010 at 10:40pm

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My advice--stay away from their forums. Just play the serene game and meet folks.

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4 AUG 2011 at 2:42pm

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Can you kill stuff in the game? Are there opponents or just puzzles?
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7 AUG 2011 at 1:09pm

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Cod, your only weapon is your brain.    


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8 AUG 2011 at 10:06am

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Can you throw you brain at monsters?  

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9 AUG 2011 at 5:34am

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There are many challenges in life and in URU that do not require killing anything at all. Try it and see ..if you like it good, if not, there are many many many other virtual worlds to visit, thousands actually.
 enjoy.

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9 AUG 2011 at 10:50pm

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URU gives you the world to freely roam in, to live in, and to meet others and share amazing places and adventures.  Yes, there are plenty of puzzles if you want them.  If not, just go for a swim.

There is no plotline, no goals, no fighting, but the potential for more shared adventures than anywhere else.  

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10 AUG 2011 at 3:32am

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Amen to all of that

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10 AUG 2011 at 9:18am

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Thousand different ages :-?

 

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10 AUG 2011 at 12:23pm

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Does anyone else find the ages in Uru the ugliest out of all in Myst? I don't remember much impressing me except maybe the ambience of that little island when it rained, and the big volcano at the start. Nothing compared with the huge tree in Exile or Channelwood. Maybe it's just the graphics.

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13 AUG 2011 at 11:12am

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The graphic seem decent for a freebie...
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5 SEP 2011 at 3:53am

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Uru is ugly?  Well, the city is located underground, in a cavern that was partially excavated and then abandoned after a series of mysterious incidents.  So that explains the sky and the subdued lighting but the other gameworlds are very different.  The game begins with you, newly arrived, trying to figure out what happened down there.

As part of your quest for information, you get to link into different worlds where you will find notebooks scattered around that if you read them, will shed light upon the D'ni culture, the tensions surrounding the Bahro and what happened to make the archeologists abandon the site.

So there is a plotline but it is dependent upon your own curiosity.  The game can of course be played just for the puzzles and/or the fun of playing with buddies.  Night time soccer in Minkata is always good for a laugh, or sardines, or any of the player created marker quests.  After that, there is always the exploits: routes that take you into unexpected places, with unusual views and a most satisfying sense of achievement.    And then there are the dance parties, concerts, readings and other social events which are mostly timed for the Americans.  


Cris, I see you posted a photo from the locked pavement.  Gotta love that leap from Concert Hall roof.   [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

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