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| 1 JAN 2010 at 7:39pm |
colpetSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Nice list, Aya. I didn't listen to much music this past year, but I do have a few faves, one of which is on your list - Muse.
There are quite a few familiar artists that I like as well -Morrissey, Arctic Monkeys, Echo and the Bunnymen, and Dinosaur Jr.
I didn't know Xymox had been reborn. Phoenix of my Heart was a favorite of mine back in the day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoaoZJqWCJg
One other band I really liked to listen to this year was Metric, a Canadian band.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqldwoDXHKg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEz8N8AT-yo
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| 1 JAN 2010 at 9:18pm |
Taurnil MithrandirJourneyman
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Status : Online | Nice list Aya. I didn't expect such variety though! Nice!
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| 1 JAN 2010 at 9:41pm |
Lucien21Guild Master
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Status : Offline | What is Vinyl :-?
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| 2 JAN 2010 at 9:20am |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Lucien21 (1 JAN 2010 9:41pm)
What is Vinyl :-?
Very soon I'll be asking "What is CD?"
@colpet: Xymox never really went away. They just kept changing names from Clan of Xymox to Xymox and back to Clan of Xymox again!
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| 2 JAN 2010 at 2:16pm |
ButterproofSorcerer Apprentice
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Aya_Brea (2 JAN 2010 9:20am)
Originally Posted By Lucien21 (1 JAN 2010 9:41pm)
What is Vinyl :-?
Very soon I'll be asking "What is CD?"
@colpet: Xymox never really went away. They just kept changing names from Clan of Xymox to Xymox and back to Clan of Xymox again!
What is exactly "CD"? :
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| 2 JAN 2010 at 3:09pm |
Taurnil MithrandirJourneyman
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Status : Online | After all these years of listening to music I still prefer the vinyl. I always had an antipathy for the cds due to their harsh, flat sound and meaningless shape.
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| 4 JAN 2010 at 8:46am |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By eragon (2 JAN 2010 3:08pm)
After all these years of listening to music I still prefer the vinyl. I always had an antipathy for the cds due to their harsh, flat sound and meaningless shape.
I most certainly agree, assuming though that one has a good sound system, otherwise vinyl may sound a lot worse if played on a crap turntable.
Me, I am a person of comfort, so I always prefer MP3s. You can do anything you want with them: remove tracks you don't care for, add tracks from other albums, repeat tracks, shuffle tracks etc etc. I don't have a turntable right now, but I am planning to buy one, because I occasionally like the whole process of listening to a vinyl record, from the second you take it out of its sleeve. But, overall, I will always be an MP3 major fan - well, at least smth even easier comes along!
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| 4 JAN 2010 at 11:19pm |
Taurnil MithrandirJourneyman
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Status : Online | I have bought a turntable 600€ and I'm really satisfied by its music and subtle energy. Of course I listen mostly jazz and pre-classical music cause my speakers aren't fond of electrical music and nu metal staff. Of course I have the mp3s for that.
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| 5 JAN 2010 at 3:03am |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | The harsh sound that was present on CDs produced in the 1980s was due to the fact that microphones, pre-amps and amplifiers that were in recording studios at the time had been developed specifically to take into account the limitations of vinyl, one of which being that higher frequencies/higher end was more difficult to transmit to the listener thru vinyl. When digital recordings were produced on CDs using this older equipment, the result was an unrealistic accentuation of the high end and hence harsh, shrill sound.
That situation was addressed towards the end of the 1980s and CDs, particularly classical, that have been produced since then would be superior to vinyl in virtually every way (assuming all things equal when it comes to the production itself). When it comes to popular music, the quality of sound on CDs now has more to do with changing production practices more than any difference between the medium ie. CD vs. vinyl. It is now considered 'optimal' to record pop music with a decreased dynamic range (ie. less difference between the softest & loudest sound) which allegedly increases the 'presence' and works better when the sound is compressed to mp3, wma or aac (itune) formats which reduce dynamic range from the getgo as part of the compression process. BTW: Fooling with dynamic range is considered heresy in the recording of classical music.
I've had many a turntable in my day and have gone thru more cartridges than I care to remember trying to find the perfect sound. In the end, one was never able to get around the problems of ticks and pops, turntable rumble, AC hum and the use of cheap vinyl by recording companies (especially American such as RCA Victor and the like) and by my measure, I will take CD sound over that any day.
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 5 JAN 2010 at 4:13am |
Taurnil MithrandirJourneyman
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The fact is that after all these years of searching music and sound I have concluded that:
a. Loudspeakers must be sensitive, over 97 db.
b. Valve amplifier is a must with a limit of 7W per channel single-ended triode.
c. Purchase a good turntable.
Three things. Nothing more.
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| 5 JAN 2010 at 4:39am |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By eragon (5 JAN 2010 4:13am)
@SirDave
The fact is that after all these years of searching music and sound I have concluded that:
a. Loudspeakers must be sensitive, over 97 db.
b. Valve amplifier is a must with a limit of 7W per channel single-ended triode.
c. Purchase a good turntable.
Three things. Nothing more.
Each to his own. But if one chooses the 'vinyl purist' direction, going back to my days of my subscription to Stereophile magazine, you would need 2 more things, an excellent cartridge (which was always selected separate from the turntable) and a record using the highest quality vinyl.
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 5 JAN 2010 at 2:03pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By SirDave (5 JAN 2010 4:39am)
a record using the highest quality vinyl
Most records now come on 180gram high quality vinyl. Unfortunately, although I own plenty of those, I haven't had the chance to listen to them yet, no turntable and all, so I can't comment on their sound. Hopefully this year I'll be making some much needed purchases... :
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| 5 JAN 2010 at 2:18pm |
Taurnil MithrandirJourneyman
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I agree perfectly with you. A perfect cartridge is a bounden duty! I'm looking forward to buying the 'Jan Allaerts MC2 Finish Formula One' cartridge but it costs 10.500€! I know a case of a reviewer who listened to this diamond in order to write a critic on a magazine but he left because he couldn't write anything due to its sound!
@Aya
Especially the sound of the 200gr high fidelity japanese vinyls are out of this world.
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| 5 JAN 2010 at 2:21pm |
Agent BreaPrivate Detective
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Status : Online | 200gr?! I wasn't aware of that, and have no such records. Will keep it in mind though and try and lay my hands on some (or at least one!)
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| 5 JAN 2010 at 2:28pm |
colpetSchattenjger
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Status : Offline | Having lived through the days of 45s, LPs, 8 tracks and tapes, I can't imagine anyone willing going back to any of those formats. Just by virtue of the fact that they all are physically touched by something in order to have the mucic play means that each time they are used, a bit wears away. As for quality of sound, after a certain age : you're going to be hard pressed to really notice the difference.
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| 5 JAN 2010 at 2:35pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | My music listening "career" started with vinyls and cassette tapes. Moved up to CDs and then ended up (currently) to MP3s. Everything easier than its predecessor. I wouldn't go back to CDs (all CDs I buy go straight to the shelf, or maybe in the car for a while) and certainly wouldn't go back to tapes. But there is smth in the whole procedure of playing a vinyl record that just can't be beat!
You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.
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| 5 JAN 2010 at 2:35pm |
Taurnil MithrandirJourneyman
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By colpet (5 JAN 2010 2:28pm)
Having lived through the days of 45s, LPs, 8 tracks and tapes, I can't imagine anyone willing going back to any of those formats. Just by virtue of the fact that they all are physically touched by something in order to have the mucic play means that each time they are used, a bit wears away. As for quality of sound, after a certain age : you're going to be hard pressed to really notice the difference.
The fact is that women hear the music and particularly the sound 'more correctly' than men.
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| 5 JAN 2010 at 5:17pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Status : Offline | What I am wondering is whether there is going to be any further hardware medium for recordings (ie. albums on memory cards) or will you just download them in something like lossy formats, mp3/aac/wma, (cheaper) vs. lossless formats, (more expensive).
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 5 JAN 2010 at 6:02pm |
anthonyJourneyman
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Status : Offline | The album or CD released this year that I think deserves recognition is not a studio release or even a commercially produced live record but it is legit and it is available for purchase on the band's website. It's the Allman Brothers Band show at the Beacon Theatre in New York on the evening of March 19, 2009.
What made this show so significant was the special guest appearance of Eric Clapton. Clapton and the ABB played a whole set of songs from the Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs album by Derek and the Dominoes, which was formed by Clapton and Duane Allman.
http://www.hittinthenote.com/cart/p-945-allman-brothers-band-br-beacon-theater-31909.aspx
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| 6 JAN 2010 at 10:47am |
Taurnil MithrandirJourneyman
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Status : Online | Seems interesting....
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| 7 JAN 2010 at 9:16am |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By SirDave (5 JAN 2010 5:17pm)
What I am wondering is whether there is going to be any further hardware medium for recordings (ie. albums on memory cards) or will you just download them in something like lossy formats, mp3/aac/wma, (cheaper) vs. lossless formats, (more expensive).
I'm afraid dloading may become the only option in the future. It's the tendency in all media unfortunately, with games being ahead of the pack. Albums on mem cards is not good either. Mem cards won't look nice on your shelf... :
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| 8 JAN 2010 at 4:19pm |
Taurnil MithrandirJourneyman
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Status : Online | Dloading IS the future!
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| 9 JAN 2010 at 8:14am |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Status : Offline | Originally Posted By eragon (8 JAN 2010 4:19pm)
Dloading IS the future!
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| 9 JAN 2010 at 9:46am |
Taurnil MithrandirJourneyman
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Status : Online | Originally Posted By Aya_Brea (9 JAN 2010 8:13am)
Originally Posted By eragon (8 JAN 2010 4:19pm)
Dloading IS the future!
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