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| 4 FEB 2003 at 6:27pm |
STooGE4444, EastCoastDoom...Schattenjger


Posts : 2099 Joined: 15 OCT 2002
Status : Online | aptly said petter...only I think Bush should do the math not us...ohhh, wait a second....nevermind....
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| 4 FEB 2003 at 7:24pm |
AndromusGuild Master


Posts : 5538 Joined: 6 NOV 2002
Status : Offline | I voted for Bush in part because he pledged to shrink government spending, balance the budget, etc. I'm very disappointed in his budget plan -- tax cuts are all well and good, but that's not what the country needs right now. I can understand the budget increases for some things -- who doesn't want to see terrorism reduced? Nevertheless, his overall budget plan is misguided. Here's my prediction -- if this budget passes without a lot of changes, you're going to see a new president in the White House next election.
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| 4 FEB 2003 at 7:49pm |
GayleSchattenjger


Posts : 2544 Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Peter,
Very well said. Say you don't think he is pouring money into military because he wants to to save the world? and it is not America's world to save. You all could see this coming, he wants to become the John Wayne of the world. He wants a legacy, a library. Can't tell you the ugly tingle I had when he said in his speech we were the chosen ones (ahhhhh, I'll pass on that one).
He is now pouring money into the space project, because he wants the general population to see how generous and what future vision he has. If you read the reports and then evaluate this recent donation, he is doing this because we will be having elections soon, and since this was a tragedy, he is politically playing on that to get more potential voters. This program has been pushed to the side for years now and money should have been supplied way before now.
As you know, from any posts I have written to, I am against this war. If we do go war it is going to stall our economy more that it is stalled today.
Again, I think this is a political move to get the general population on his side for the upcoming election, promising all these tax cuts. If the general population (including myself) doesn't listen well to what is being presented, they will not realize that the cuts in middle and lower class will amount to nothing. The rich and fluential people who can help him are going to donate more to back him because he gave them so a generous cut. A favor for a favor.
Was listening to a radio talk host here at work who said the tax cuts should be larger at the top because they contribute more to the economy and business. That the lower classes really don't need tax cuts because they are making so little and contributing so little to business and taxes. >
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| 4 FEB 2003 at 8:12pm |
BelindaSchattenjger


Posts : 2093 Joined: 21 OCT 2002
Status : Online | What does it say in the Bible? That the world will end with a war in the Middle East?? :'(
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| 4 FEB 2003 at 10:37pm |
lakerzPrivate Detective


Posts : 654 Joined: 11 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Originally Posted By Gayle (4 FEB 2003 7:49pm) Peter, If we do go war it is going to stall our economy more that it is stalled today.
This may be overgeneralizing, but doesn't a war usually stimulate the economy?
What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas...
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| 4 FEB 2003 at 11:25pm |
GayleSchattenjger


Posts : 2544 Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Status : Online | That is what I had always thought too. Had always heard if you want to stir the economy have a war with someone.
War=Better Economy.
However, listening to a couple different analysts, they predict that this little venture is going to have adverse affect on our economy instead of a positive result.
Perhaps because our economy and unemployment is very bad and a lot of people are not buying and I don't think that going into a war is going to turn that around. People are scared to spend and I can't blame them and they have lost a lot of their pension plans and savings over the few years. Perhaps, if we had been on an upward swing instead of a down spiral it would boost the economy. Well, we shall see because I doubt if Bush and his administration are going to change their minds.
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| 4 FEB 2003 at 11:48pm |
szcaxJourneyman


Posts : 935 Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Originally Posted By lakerz (4 FEB 2003 10:37pm)
This may be overgeneralizing, but doesn't a war usually stimulate the economy?
Bush better hope so!
I'm surprised that he's not advertising the war as an economy stimulus package.
Black holes are where God divided by zero
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| 5 FEB 2003 at 12:02am |
GayleSchattenjger


Posts : 2544 Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Szcax,
That was very funny
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| 5 FEB 2003 at 12:43am |
lakerzPrivate Detective


Posts : 654 Joined: 11 OCT 2002
Status : Online | Not that I would ever imply that starting a war just to boost a sagging economy would be a good decision! I can definitely see the opposite being true in this case. Regardless, Bush has some tough decisions ahead of him.
What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas...
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| 5 FEB 2003 at 3:26am |
JoGuild Master


Posts : 3313 Joined: 3 NOV 2002 Location: AU, Qld.
Status : Offline | Don't know about your economy benefitting from a war, although that has often been the case with countries in the past, however the arms manufactureres certainly will. I sometimes wonder how many wars have been started for this reason and which "high-profile" business leaders and politicians have shares in the companies manufacturing weapons.
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