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| 20 JAN 2003 at 8:22pm |
GamaholicPrivate Detective
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Joined: 3 NOV 2002
Status : Online | Thanks Judy, I do hope they surprise me...if the games do arrive, I'll gleefully post the news here!
That which makes one happy is not a waste of time
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| 20 JAN 2003 at 9:09pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Joined: 17 OCT 2002
Location: US
Status : Offline | Gamaholic-
Is gleeful really the right term since it will have been about 2 months since you ordered? (Wasn't it Nov 23rd or something like that?)
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 20 JAN 2003 at 10:02pm |
GamaholicPrivate Detective
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Joined: 3 NOV 2002
Status : Online | Yep...November 23. But since now I expect nothing, the utter surprise of these games on my doorstep would surely cause an adrenaline rush of sorts resulting in spurt of glee! oes it mean I'd order again from them or recommend them? Does Indiana Jones enjoy the company of snakes?
That which makes one happy is not a waste of time
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| 21 JAN 2003 at 1:18am |
SirDaveGuild Master
Posts : 4939
Joined: 17 OCT 2002
Location: US
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Gamaholic (20 JAN 2003 10:02pm)
the utter surprise of these games on my doorstep would surely cause an adrenaline rush of sorts resulting in spurt of glee!
There's no doubt: coming home and finding a Priority Mail box (with an AG inside) on your doorstep is one of the great experiences of life!
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 31 JAN 2003 at 11:55am |
GamaholicPrivate Detective
Posts : 724
Joined: 3 NOV 2002
Status : Online | Just thought I'd bump this post as a cautionary tale to new readers...still no games or return email from the Software Society...sigh..
That which makes one happy is not a waste of time
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| 31 JAN 2003 at 12:51pm |
| Deleted User | Sorry to hear that.
SInce December I've got games from R&R wholesale, Software Outlet and Playing Games Interactive -
all delivered promptly via ordinary Airmail - not Fedex (which is great too).
In fact =Playing Games Interactive delivered my games from the USA to UK in only 4 days via Airmail post!!!
That was almost as quick as fedex -
great service.
I've been very tempted by what's on offer at the TSS site - but held back aafter reading the posts here.
I did e-mail TSS once in November about the avvailability of Morpheus - and received a polite reply very quickly - but I'm not encouraged by your experience.
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| 31 JAN 2003 at 3:34pm |
AyaGrand Inquisitor
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Joined: 16 OCT 2002
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By Gamaholic (31 JAN 2003 11:54am)
Just thought I'd bump this post as a cautionary tale to new readers...still no games or return email from the Software Society...sigh..
why not sending them a mail with the link to this topic to show them how many ppl are reading about their credibility
You have gotten the attention of the mysterious lady. She turns to face you. Her face is devoid of any flesh. You are frozen with horror as she begins ripping your body into a bloody mess.
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| 31 JAN 2003 at 7:46pm |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Joined: 17 OCT 2002
Location: US
Status : Offline | Earlier in this thread (Jan 1, I gave you a link to the TSS feedback. Just in case anyone has even the remotest thought of making a TSS buy, check out the latest feedback (the first 2 pages cover the history since Jan 1. I always give the benefit of the doubt to vendors for some of the negative feedback they get, but TSS is charting absolutely new negative feedback horizons!
http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=tss
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 31 JAN 2003 at 7:56pm |
GamaholicPrivate Detective
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Joined: 3 NOV 2002
Status : Online | SirDave...thanks for the link, very informative. I think I will send TSS a link to this post, though something tells me it will have no effect.
That which makes one happy is not a waste of time
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| 31 JAN 2003 at 10:39pm |
friedmonkySpace Cadet
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Joined: 10 APR 2005
Status : Offline | I have emailed Rick at TSS and included a link to this thread. Hope he comes around and straightens this all out.
friedmonky
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| 31 JAN 2003 at 11:45pm |
Jenny100Guild Master
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Joined: 12 OCT 2002
Status : Offline | There is something weird about that feedback page. Maybe ebay is having a weird problem or something. But I'm seeing 0 negative ratings listed at the top part of the page where it lists "past 7 days," "past month," and "past 6 mos." But if you scroll down the page you see several bad feedbacks, just on that one page.
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| 1 FEB 2003 at 12:14am |
SirDaveGuild Master
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Joined: 17 OCT 2002
Location: US
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By friedmonky (31 JAN 2003 10:39pm)
I have emailed Rick at TSS and included a link to this thread. Hope he comes around and straightens this all out.
I'd be interested to see his response, but I would have a problem with its credibility. The good vendors have very little negative feedback overall, but over time, especially if they're doing high volume, they will accumulate some. You can tell a lot by how they respond to the negative feedback- usually it's a simple explanation of what went wrong or where the customer misunderstood the situation, but it doesn't consist of name-calling etc. The very tone of the TSS response to the feedback says a lot to me.
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 1 FEB 2003 at 3:08am |
GamaholicPrivate Detective
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Joined: 3 NOV 2002
Status : Online | Jenny..that is weird. I just checked the ebay feedback and i see all zeros now at the top. But earlier when i looked, the negative feedback was exactly equal to the positive feedback for the last 7 days, and about 1/3 was negative of the last month.
I did email a link to TSS. I hope they choose to rectify the situation. I love happy endings.
That which makes one happy is not a waste of time
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| 1 FEB 2003 at 3:26am |
ArnirIntergalactic Janitor
Posts : 53
Joined: 21 JAN 2003
Status : Online | Well, if it helps the cause, I pledge not to buy any games from TSS until/unless you get a positive outcome. I haven't purchased from them before, but I am getting interested in some of the games mentioned on this forum, so I will need to find a good order house.
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| 3 FEB 2003 at 12:13am |
GamaholicPrivate Detective
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Joined: 3 NOV 2002
Status : Online | Well...I received an email today from TSS. They promised to reship the games to me; I'll let you guys know if and when they get here.
The email they sent is a lengthy one which makes many statements about eBay, adventure game sales and adventure game sites.
I think I'll let you see for yourself...
...ummm, perhaps not, TSS emailed me that I was committing libel by posting their email.
Sigh, I just want the games for which I paid, not a fight.
That which makes one happy is not a waste of time
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| 3 FEB 2003 at 12:28am |
MichalNGrand Inquisitor
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Joined: 14 SEP 2003
Status : Online | Originally Posted By Gamaholic (3 FEB 2003 12:13am)
We tried and tried to support the adventure games community over & over & over for nearly 2 years even attending the various forums and sites. The problem in the adv games community is none of these adv supported sites get along, the adv community has been so fragmented that no reseller can make a red cent at it unless charging ridiculous prices thus having one customer pay for the other "non-sales" that justify carrying the genre of games.
Sounds like a non-sequitur to me. I don't see how "fragmented" web sites affect customers' spending?
As a secondary note, we are not allowed to attend Just Adventure and many of the other adv sites as we have "told it the way it is" when it comes to these sites beating up on one another.
The most recent user registered at this forum is called TSS. What a strange coincidence...
Thats a direct whack of your civil rights. Who is a moderator to take away your rights under constitutional law because they dont like other sites or competitor sites?
And that is direct bullshit because all the sites are privately owned and the moderators can do whatever they please. The Constitution has nothing to do with this.
I must say that I now completely agree with SirDave's assessment of TSS.
I forgot my sig.
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| 3 FEB 2003 at 1:05am |
Agustín CordesGuild Master
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Joined: 23 OCT 2002
Location: AR, Buenos Aires
Status : Offline | That last paragraph is one of the silliest things I've read on this forum (and you know there's some really dumb stuff posted here).
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| 3 FEB 2003 at 2:03am |
SirDaveGuild Master
Posts : 4939
Joined: 17 OCT 2002
Location: US
Status : Offline | Well, sniff....sniff, that TSS letter just brought tears to my eyes. How could I have misjudged them. Life has been so hard. And now they're going to do away with adventure games altogether. And on top of all this, my golly, in the State of the Union address, George Bush said he was going to regulate Ebay and maybe send a bill to congress to do away with feedback! OHHHH GAWWWWD!
(Okay I embelished a little bit.) Hmm TSS's explanation brings to mind.......RAMBLING!
The future ain't what it used to be!
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| 3 FEB 2003 at 4:17am |
Randy-JAJourneyman
Posts : 1351
Joined: 11 OCT 2002
Location: US
Status : Offline | well, I think you now all have a taste of why TSS has been banned from almost every forum on the internet.
As for his account, it will be deleted as I will take him at his word that he will not be back.
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| 3 FEB 2003 at 4:19am |
SirDaveGuild Master
Posts : 4939
Joined: 17 OCT 2002
Location: US
Status : Offline | Originally Posted By TSS (3 FEB 2003 3:33am)
eBay has lost 75% of its software resellers due to bad buyers. We recieve unbelievable amounts of bad credit cards, bounced checks etc.
eBay also have many businesses that are wishing of the Bush Administration and Congress to regulate the site. They are also working to put the post offices under federal control and eliminating all forms of USPS parcel mail delivery leaving UPS, FedEx, Airborne Express etc. as the only options.
eBay is well aware of the issues, I can show you software/video game sellers with over 1000 negatives scattered across 10 accounts. We could do that as well but we dont bother.
As to the "state of adventure sales". Its not good.
We see the sales and the figures here are the same. Thus we are selling what we have and we are not purchasing any other Adventure game releases, or we dont plan to.
As to shipping:
The rates are basically too high for most "eBay" people to want to pay. Incidently, its one of the reasons Bush is going after eBay, most sellers at the site are not declaring any incomes from the site and thus using the US Postal Service to defraud the IRS basically. We were told by the postal service to start using Media Mail and thats exactly what we have done with eBay. The results are slow deliverys.
TSS:
Well, one hardly knows where to start. The unanswered question still is- why do you have so much negative feedback mainly having to do with delayed or no deliveries? I understand and sympathize with the challenges vendors face, including difficult buyers, but the fact is that I've bought repeatedly from certain Ebay vendors that have little or no negative feedback and my purchases from them always turn up on time. And incidentally, they don't have a problem using and charging for Priority Mail. The premise that you use media mail because the USPS told you to is, well....surreal!
As for George Bush, I think he's a little more interested in controlling and regulating Iraq than Ebay and 'the postal services'.
Finally, I'm not sure what the comments on the alleged dire state of adventure game sales on Ebay and/or commercial sites have to do with anything. Everyone here knows that adventure games are not big sellers right now, but there are a number of smaller businesses online and on Ebay that seem to be doing rather well selling to adventure gamers.
You've had some great games offered for sale and your online site is very nice. I hope it prospers and that you continue to sell adventure games. And I hope you get some control over your shipping!
The future ain't what it used to be!
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