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Topic: The most regreted use of a walkthrough spoiler TLJ

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20 OCT 2002 at 10:08am

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is "regreted" a word?i dunno

the first adventure game i ever played was broken sword 2, and as someone said on these boards "theres nothing quite like your first"
i cheated like a rat everytime something didnt fall on my lap instantly. i beg forgivness from the adventure gods for this crime, that game would have been perfect but i ruined it! well not really, i love it still.

but the use of a walkthough i most regret was in the longest journey.
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spoiler, nothing too big tho
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it was when you are on that island with the telepone poles thingies, and it was nearing the end of the game. it didnt cross my mind to call crow for some reason. and i used to the devils text/ walkthrough. i deeply regret it, and know given a few more seconds of thought i would have worked it out.

oh and another time i used a walkthrough was to pick up that big key on the rail track right at the begining. but i will come right out and say that i would have NEVER got that!

when have you used a walk through where it has really spoiled the game for you in some way?
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20 OCT 2002 at 12:05pm

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a couple of times yes... i don't remember examples but it's mostly when i haven't got an item or enter a room that was actually very obvious

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20 OCT 2002 at 12:17pm

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When I played the first two Monkey Island games for the first time, I had a friend at school who knew all the puzzles and would give me the solution whenever I got stuck.  I didn't think I was doing any harm at the time, but now that I love adventure games so much I wish I had some way to know if I could have done it on my own.

And I had to look up a walkthrough for Sam & Max because I didn't see a doorway in one location.  The door was about two inches high and one across - I must have been blind!  This didn't spoil the game at all, but seeing the solutions to other puzzles while I was looking for the correct spot in the walkthrough did.  Blargh!
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20 OCT 2002 at 6:10pm

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I had to use a walkthrough for the telephone poles thingy. And the key in the subway. I've also used them for any puzzle in a game that just doesn't really make logical sense, including the audio tape in GK2. I mean, if you've ever tried splicing a tape? Doesn't come off as quite so believable..
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20 OCT 2002 at 7:49pm

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Hey...if you're stuck, you're stuck. I'll work on a puzzle for a while, but when it gets to the point where I feel like tossing the CDs in the dumpster...in other words, I am no longer enjoying the game for that one puzzle....then by all means I check out a walkthrough, get through the sticky part, and move on. I'd say about 90 percent of the puzzles that forced me to a walkthrough were ones that I would have NEVER figured out (most weren't logical...."Use a magical tree root to engage the gears while sticking your right index finger in your left ear"...you know the type). The other 10 percent are the head-bangers---"
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Just starting TLJ (yes, I know....but better late than never). No walkthrough needed yet. Uh...will I need any gnome's warts perchance?  ???

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20 OCT 2002 at 8:01pm

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I say to myself, "I will kick your freakin', muscularly-tite arse if you look up a walkthrough."  But usually that just scares me and I stop playing the game for a while.  

I really, really try my hardest to not use hints.  It really bugs me when I can't solve a puzzle.  Most of the time when I can't solve a puzzle is because the puzzle does not fall into my logical mindset.   And since I'm really cool and smart, I always think logically and smartly.  So that if the puzzle is not based on pure logic I cannot reference it within my mutually exclusive domain of the logically adaptive puzzle-base.  Now what the question really is is what am I going to eat for dinner?

Actually I have to study...
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20 OCT 2002 at 8:13pm

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I'm at Chapter 7 of TLJ and have used hints once...the machine in Chapter One/Two. I can't stand that type of puzzle, most of the time you are given no clue as to what you're meant to do with the machine or how to do it. I'd never have worked it out, unless I spent a very long time with trial and error...

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20 OCT 2002 at 9:34pm

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Walkthroughs are evil, which is why I barely ever use them.
Still, sometimes they can be useful
. Especially in boring games, or when you're starting to think that there must be a bug.
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20 OCT 2002 at 10:53pm

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I really like the Universal Hint System...that way, you can get as little or much info as you need and don't feel so much like a cheater.  Anyone else out there ever tried it???
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21 OCT 2002 at 12:39am

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Greetings,

Universal Hint System? What's that?  ???

*wonders*

Farewell.
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21 OCT 2002 at 2:30am

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Ah yes, the great UHS!  I love that sight but am glad i didn't knonw about it when i played Myst.  My girlfriends and I did it all by ourselves.  We were stuck for a long time in the age until we said 'OK what would we do if we were actualy there in that room . . . and then we had a brainstorm to look up. DUH.

I think UHS is  great and don't mind using cheats, especially if game is rather boring and I'm just trying to get to the end.  Same said girlfriends and I also played Schizm DVD earlier this year and did have to use the cheats for some of the math problems - but even then we could see that we already had the correct idea.  We felt so proud of ourselves when we didn't stoop to cheating with the prayer grinders.  

I don't ever feel bad about cheating if I'm pretty sure I'm doing the correct thing and just want to check to make sure I am doing the right thing . . . usually the hint is something like 'put the cursor EXACTLY over the thingy' where I was not as precise in my cursoring.  

Anyway, are there any other good hint sights that are like UHS ?  
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21 OCT 2002 at 9:24pm

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Originally Posted By psybafire (20 OCT 2002 10:08am)

it was when you are on that island with the telepone poles thingies, and it was nearing the end of the game. it didnt cross my mind to call crow for some reason. and i used to the devils text/ walkthrough. i deeply regret it, and know given a few more seconds of thought i would have worked it out.


That's funny, this was the only place where I got stuck in TLJ. Took me about an hour to figure out but I did it in the end. In fact when I finished TLJ I was a bit disappointed. The box promised "50 hours of gameplay" (or something like that) and it only took me slightly less than half of that to finish the game (without a walkthrough or anything). Then again it wasn't exactly the first adventure I had played.

Personally I never regret peeking into a walkthrough, it's no use  
Sometimes I think afterwards "Gee, I should have thought of this" but more often it's "Oh boy, how was I supposed to figure that one out? It makes no sense at all!".

I remebmer when I was playing GK3 the only place where I needed to look into a walkthrough was pretty odd. It wasn't Le Serpent Rouge or anything (I thought that was pretty easy - and a great puzzle) but near the end Grace needs to look at someone through binoculars. And I just couldn't find the binocs even though they were in plain sight. Then I really wanted to kick myself.

PS: "regreted" isn't a word but "regretted" is  

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